The PARA/normal Borders Podcast is a media platform hosted by artist and educator Ed Gomez, that investigates the combined regions of California and Mexico as a supernatural zone, operating outside of what is viewed as “normal” or “natural.” Episodes explore the intersections of art and the paranormal through first-hand accounts and engaging conversations with professional artists and cultural producers through topics relating to the borderlands and beyond. The PARA/normal Borders Podcast is a project of the MXCL BNL LAB, a research arm of the MexiCali Biennial. This podcast is made possible by support from the Mellon Foundation.

Ana Muñiz: The Specter of Surveillance in the Borderlands
In this episode of the PARA/normal Borders Podcast, Ed Gomez sits down with Ana Muñiz, Associate Professor of Criminology, Law and Society at UC Irvine’s School of Social Ecology. Muñiz

Isidro Pérez García: Terreno Familiar | Familiar Terrain
Join us for an in-depth discussion with artist Isidro Pérez García as he discusses his interdisciplinary art practice and his solo exhibition at MXCL BNL LAB, titled Por Debajo de la

Talking to Spirits: Fred Blanco’s Paranormal Adventures!
Join host Ed Gomez for an exciting episode featuring the multi-talented Fred Blanco, also known as Wildcat Jackson from Little Big Stage Productions! Fred brings his unique blend of comedy,

Albert Lopez Jr.: Tijuana as a Ghost Town
In this episode of the Paranormal Borders Podcast, we sit down with Albert Lopez Jr., a multidisciplinary artist and the Director of Installation at the Orange County Museum of Art

Armando Pulido: Curating Stories
In this episode, we sit down with Armando Pulido, Assistant Curator for Special Projects at The Huntington and a MexiCali Biennial team member, to explore how curation can reshape our